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chaostribe
November 4th, 2006, 11:08 PM
Hello everyone. My friend Nebula told me i should look into this about 2 years ago. I never listened, he has had succes, so now i wanna try.
I've been giving this a go now for at least 2 months.
I don't get it , i have signed up with everybody and everyone.
But, what am I selling, and where and the how.
I signed up with google, had some kinda product, it never did well, and i got charged for 10 bucks. Is there a walk through, maybe an internet coarse.
Something that's clear this up for me.
I have a Click Bank Accont, Google Account, Yahoo, an EIN NUmber,Ebay

promomom
November 4th, 2006, 11:29 PM
:innocent: Why don't you check out Profit Monster? :innocent:

TrustNo1
November 4th, 2006, 11:48 PM
Nebula should hook you up for free :)

reina
November 4th, 2006, 11:55 PM
And not only should you check out Prophet Monster: but, you should also check out Google Cash and The Rich Jerk. Heck, sell all three of them. They each give you over thirty dollars a pop in commission, and they are really hot out there on the net.

After you have signed up to sell these, you have to write some snazzy ads. Make sure your title is catchy and the delivery is good. Here are some ad writing tips:

1. Always use a descriptive text in your ad title. Don't use redirects or images.

2. Your ad should tell what exactly you are selling. For example, when advertising Google Cash, say, "Newly Released Secret To Generating Powerful Prophets On Google" rather than saying, "great book about google." See how the latter is less of an impact. I would not even click the second version of the title. Your Title should be an attention grabber. To make it this way, use emotion grabbing words such as
New Free Power Secret Romance Money Love Breakthru Revealed Magic Fear Win Prize Reward

3. Repeat the title of your ad somewhere in the body of your ad for more impact.

4. Don't put the title of your ad in all caps. This makes it hard to read.

5. Don't make your title long and drawn out. Short and to the point is the best way to go.

Drop me a line if you have trouble. I'll be glad to help you.

chaostribe
November 5th, 2006, 05:12 AM
Thanks Promo mom,Reina and Trust no one.
I'm going to read up reina.

basnl
November 5th, 2006, 07:35 AM
I think promomom meant with 'checking out', actually reading the ebook(s) and not solely promoting them. These 'money making ebooks' have a lot of competition, especially on the PPC engines, so it will probably be pretty hard to successfully promote these high gravity products. You could try some low gravity products (not-marketing-related) instead:


Browse through the marketplace and make a small list of a few products that actually could be useful to someone
A website should convert at a decent rate to be profitable for you, so look at their (sales)page and try to figure out if it looks trustworthy and if it could convince a potential buyer to actually buy. (Bad 'created by a 10year old kid' looking webpages, (adsense) ads, additional (non-CB) payment options are a no-no)
Focus on the products with a high %/sale commission, and a sale price of somewhere between $15-$30. A product with only a small price logically converts a bit better than the expensive ones. It doesn't mean these cheap products will generate you more overall profit, but you'll get more and faster feedback with the higher conversion rate. You will need this feedback to figure out if a product is actually worth promoting, and to be able to optimize your campaigns.

Walt
November 5th, 2006, 08:54 AM
Sounds like NED (Not Enough Data).

If you only spent $10, you can't get an accurate idea of how the ad is performing.

I often set my daily budget to 4 times conversion. So if I make $20 on a conversion (sale), then I set my daily budget to $80 and my price per click is whatever I need to at least be on the first page of results.

Then, I wait...

and wait...

Until I have gotten 1000 clicks (at a typical cost of $50 to $150).

I check my profits and if it is not profitable I move on. If it is a little profitable, then I start tweaking it and if profitible, I try to replicate it.

Also realize that selling books on clickbank that tell how to make money on clickbank are often stolen from you by people who create an account at clickbank and make the purchase be their first affiliate sale to themself.

Hope this helps

"Where's my little boy?"
Some MLM'er

carr11
November 5th, 2006, 09:06 AM
Geat Info Walt!

promomom
November 5th, 2006, 10:38 AM
I think promomom meant with 'checking out', actually reading the ebook(s) and not solely promoting them. These 'money making ebooks' have a lot of competition, especially on the PPC engines, so it will probably be pretty hard to successfully promote these high gravity products. You could try some low gravity products (not-marketing-related)

That IS precisely what i meant.. and the Profit Monster also happens to be his friend Nebula's baby.. and he asked if there was a "walk through" or a "course"

xor0
November 5th, 2006, 02:24 PM
Sounds like you need to narrow your focus for a while. Pick one network (eg clickbank) and one PPC service (eg adwords) and choose a product you would buy, then promote that for a while. Don't spread yourself all over the place when starting off.

chaostribe
November 5th, 2006, 05:25 PM
Thanks guys.
It's helped.
If you all don't mind me asking..
hows everyone doing...
To be honest.
I'm studying,researching etc...
but i have a month, to really grasp this , before , i get back to a 9-5.
I just split from my job for a month, to figure this all out.
going to the Ad Tech Confrence.
Maybe I'll learn something.
Thanks again.
J.

TrustNo1
November 5th, 2006, 06:17 PM
"but i have a month, to really grasp this , before , i get back to a 9-5."

If you mean a month to get a general idea, then it's possible. If you're talking about making good money, then no. This isn't a get rich quick kind of deal regardless of all the get rick quick sites out there and all the affiliates trying to sell you on the get rich quick idea.

chaostribe
November 5th, 2006, 06:46 PM
well, i need to really get a grasp of it,..

nebula1
November 5th, 2006, 09:31 PM
Nebula should hook you up for free :)


I did! :lol:

chaostribe
November 6th, 2006, 01:08 PM
Thanks man.
The Adtech convention was amazing.
It really helped me out.
Mad informative.
Amazing!
I think I've had alot of my questions answered
since the start of this thread.
Thanks to everyone as well.
Chaos

nebula1
November 6th, 2006, 01:15 PM
Glad you went man, Im there tommorrow morning. :)