Thieves?!

[Brain]

Look at this:

4) Hot* New* Satellite Tv Elite + Goohay! [ earn 75.0 % ]

PAYOUT STATS: $earned/sale: $ 31.73 , %earned/sale: 75.0 %,
%referred: 86.0 %, gravity: 104.71

ok... 86.0% referred..
14% = company promotions?!
No way!!!!!

How come that a 104 gravity product, has only 86% reffered?
Can they steal sales? I ask that because I already have 3 sales on google, and 0 on CB...

[nebula1]

Nah man, Those stats look more than normal. I bet you they dont do any of their own promotion. 10% of all affiliate driven sales will lose their cookie resulting in an "un-affiliated sale".

[Brain]

I see.. But still.. 3 sales on google and 0 on CB? is that normal?
all different kws.. Very strange.. that's $100... Big money for me

[Brain]

Now I just checked.. it was 4 sales.. 4 keywords, 68 clicks. my site makes a great job, but somehow no sales at CB!!! Anyone has any idea? should I pause the campaign?

[bmonahan]

I wouldn't pause the campaign.... especially after just 68 clicks.

First, I would be a bit warry about any site that converts 1/15 off adwords traffic. Perhaps you are the next "guru" copywriter... but 7.5% off google is way above the industry average.... so I would expect the sales numbers to be a bit off.

Let the campaign run for a little bit... you say that you are out $100, but in the grand sceme of things that $100 isn't going to be that much. If the 68 clicks are too expecive and you can't afford to lose any more money, you are going to face some serious cash-flow problems waiting for clickbank checks (delayed a month) to arrive.

I always let my campaigns run to 500-1000 clicks (90% of the time at a loss) before I make any decisions.

Brian

[carr11]

Great advice bmonahan. Welcome to the forum as well!

[Brain]

I wouldn't pause the campaign.... especially after just 68 clicks.

First, I would be a bit warry about any site that converts 1/15 off adwords traffic. Perhaps you are the next "guru" copywriter... but 7.5% off google is way above the industry average.... so I would expect the sales numbers to be a bit off.

Let the campaign run for a little bit... you say that you are out $100, but in the grand sceme of things that $100 isn't going to be that much. If the 68 clicks are too expecive and you can't afford to lose any more money, you are going to face some serious cash-flow problems waiting for clickbank checks (delayed a month) to arrive.

I always let my campaigns run to 500-1000 clicks (90% of the time at a loss) before I make any decisions.

Brian

I spent big money on google - already more than $7k. Please do not patronize me.
Two weeks ago when I just started a similar campaign I had 4 sales on 105 clicks. Back then the sales were shown on CB but I had no google tracking.
Now I see the sales on google but nothing on CB. My kws are pretty expensive - $0.25 avg. So it's a wasted money.

BTW my sales page is very original... 1/15 sounds very legitimate to me...
If I could only see the money from it..

[hgarcia0509]

I've promoted that Satellite thing before and it converts really well so 1/15 isnt surprising. I've gotten 1/6. But for now, everything is on hold for that campaign as Im trying to finish up something.

H Garcia

[Brain]

Hi Garcia.
Can you please contact me at razrazkedem@gmail.com?

Thanks
Raz K.

[druzilla]

im advertising the same thing./.

its been 500 clicks since my last sale!
i was doing really well with it a week ago

i now have a new CB id and new domain etc... but still no sales.

i actually havent had a sale since i got them to put google tracking on their thank you page. is there any way at all i could loose sales with any information i gave to them in the tracking code? seems weird how i could get like 1/10 sales... now im up to 0/500+ over 4 days

[Velcrow]

I tried that several weeks ago just as a test.

I got one sale in like 10 clicks, and nothing for the next 350 clicks. :sad:

My keywords were really broad though. Trouble was, I hadn't a clue what that thing did. :confused:

I was afraid it was stealing satellite signals from somewhere so I stopped promoting it. :punish:

As far as the Google CB disparity goes...I believe Google. :)

I wouldn't sweat it too much over 24 hrs - some times it takes that long for the payment to show up. But after 48 hrs forget about it - I think. :throwup:

[Brain]

im advertising the same thing./.

its been 500 clicks since my last sale!
i was doing really well with it a week ago

i now have a new CB id and new domain etc... but still no sales.

i actually havent had a sale since i got them to put google tracking on their thank you page. is there any way at all i could loose sales with any information i gave to them in the tracking code? seems weird how i could get like 1/10 sales... now im up to 0/500+ over 4 days

I guess the vendor has some CB problems..
Don't you think?
I had one more sale in google. for 30 clicks... still none on CB..

[druzilla]

i get a couple of sales showing on google too.. and none on cb

[Brain]

I can't believe no one is competing them already!
I mean, this is such a simple product.

[WayneB]

75% of all their sales are affiliate driven. I'll bet the vendor is putting the Google
tracking code for all of his affilates on the same thank you page. This will mess up
your stats on Google. If your visitor has gone through another affiliates hoplink after
they went through your hoplink, that affiliate will get credit for the sale but it will
still show up as a sale in your Google stats since they clicked on your adwords ad
previously.

[Brain]

Yea.. But what are the odds that after 5 sales on google I see 0 on CB?
at least 1 should have bought through my link.
Besides, I check and found out that there are not many competitors using the same vendor for the kws I use.

Weird shit..

[Velcrow]

If your visitor has gone through another affiliates hoplink after
they went through your hoplink, that affiliate will get credit for the sale but it will still show up as a sale in your Google stats since they clicked on your adwords ad previously.

1. Assume purchaser clicks on your ad, gets cookied, but does not follow through with purchase.

a. It would be reasonable to assume that they click on someone else's ad instead, in which case it would (should) be logged by Google, and you would not get the credit from Google.

b. If this were a regular occurence, it would be reasonable to expect that the disparity would even out over time. I have tracked this for months and I'm down 30% from where Google says I should be.

c. I have read here and on other forums that Google and other Networks are very consistent in their tracking. I never read that CJ or SAS have problems with their tracking - Only CB. :punish:

I guess it's all speculation for now because, I really don't know anything, except that there is a significant disparity between my Google and Clickbank conversion tracking. :sad:

[promomom]

Anyone actually bought it? I was making a killing on it for a while, lately not so great.. One of the last sales I made was to my husband.. I had to check into that one, he never said anything before he bought it... um.... not very impressive.. Anyone bought it AND got it work properly? All we can get is the same clips over and over on channel after channel, except one day we picked up about 20 minutes of hbo... i think the only thing saving me over 1000 in refunds is the NO REFUNDS policy they have..
One other thing.. why do add goohay to the description? Unless I have a serious cookie problem, you won't make anything from goohay through that site...

[Brain]

You won't believe this!
After all that missing sales issue, I decided to open a new CB account!
Guess what happened?
That's right! BOOM - 2 SALES - 7 clicks so far!
I don't know how that's possible but my older account contains bugs...

WTF should I do now?
CB can't be trusted!
:rant:

[cjshu]

If I stop my campaigns for a day or so then start them back up a lot of times I get a sale or so.

Weeeird.

CJ

[KuZz]

Maybe you should buy it using your old affiliate ID, it wont cost you that much, especially since you should get a large % of it back in CB. If that doesn't work, I'd go to CB about it.

[suedehead]

Look at this:

4) Hot* New* Satellite Tv Elite + Goohay! [ earn 75.0 % ]

PAYOUT STATS: $earned/sale: $ 31.73 , %earned/sale: 75.0 %,
%referred: 86.0 %, gravity: 104.71



What is the product exactly? Is it like the TV & movie download sites? You know, all they do is tell you to download free software like Limewire and you're actually buying "support"?

[gen5media]

That site is pure garbage - here is the UNPROTECTED members area - this is what people will be buying if you promote it.

http://www.satellitetvtopc.com/members/

[KuZz]

Wow, that is AWFUL

[darkeralice]

:shoot:
Wow, that is AWFUL
WTF!!
i have been a passive reader here up until now, but i just cant stay
silent in light of this horrible horrible website.
are you trying to tell me that a 200+ gravity product looks
like 2 pages designed by a 3yr old with links to free products on them?!!
if i could just find the owner

[KuZz]

Yeah I don't get it. There has to be more to it then that.. That must have been a serious niche to sell so well. Even the web page for the product is awful, I can't beleive people pay so much for it.

[promomom]

Hmm... that wasn't the page my husband and I ended up at.. It had a download for satellite tv on pc and a download for something called TV ants..
TV ants :lol: the only association with ants was annoyance! It's the site where you are supposed to find more channels/get help.. it's all in chinese.. yeah, very helpful..they must have made some HUGE changes to the download page...

At any rate, it doesn't even work properly.. either that or my chinese reading skills are inadequate! :lol:

[mrosson]

That site is pure garbage - here is the UNPROTECTED members area - this is what people will be buying if you promote it.

http://www.satellitetvtopc.com/members/

Wow that is ridiculous. I'll bet they get delisted sooner rather than later :throwup:

There isn't even any real substantive content. :confused:

[matchoo77]

I could make a better sales page and just send people to channelchooser.com after they purchase. :sleazy:

[Brain]

Wow that is ridiculous. I'll bet they get delisted sooner rather than later :throwup:

There isn't even any real substantive content. :confused:

Sooner than you think.
Beware people. Their end is close.

[ClayTrainor]

That site is pure garbage - here is the UNPROTECTED members area - this is what people will be buying if you promote it.

http://www.satellitetvtopc.com/members/
pathetic

i cant beleive how easy it is to get this program for free

[macoracle]

Man that is pretty foul. Not only that losing some bank. Not wise at all. :punish: