Interesting Way to Choose a CB Product to Promote

[cjshu]

Any Williams current newsletter has a nice article ( in my opinion ) on choosing a CB product to promote. Hope it doesn't giveaway anyone elses methods beside mine.

Go here to read it;

http://ezseonews.com/blog/ezseo-newsletter-126/87/

CJ

[Makavoll]

Finally a site with real information, instead of "talking in codes or circles"

[Kimmy]

informative yes but I still like how I do it better :lol:

[carr11]

I agree great site

[rainmaker]

The idea in that article may apply in specific cases, but overall that is not a very good way to find products to promote on ClickBank. I guarantee you that the idea presented doesn't apply to most of the top ranking products in the ClickBank marketplace. Even when it comes to "make money" products, the overwhelming majority of affiliates do not buy the products they promote. Similarly, the overwhelming majority (ok probably more like 99.8%) of "review sites" are complete BS and the "reviewer" has never seen any of the products.

[apmfree]

The idea in that article may apply in specific cases, but overall that is not a very good way to find products to promote on ClickBank. I guarantee you that the idea presented doesn't apply to most of the top ranking products in the ClickBank marketplace. Even when it comes to "make money" products, the overwhelming majority of affiliates do not buy the products they promote. Similarly, the overwhelming majority (ok probably more like 99.8%) of "review sites" are complete BS and the "reviewer" has never seen any of the products.

Sad but true!

[DAVE]

good article. i agree with the article in that i like to find a product with a lower gravity, not only dose that tell me there is not as much compition but that i might luck out and be first on the boat for a high selling, high converting product.

ps. dose anyone know what the scale to the gavity point system is, in relation to the time of the sale???

-dave

[wpgcoder]

The idea in that article may apply in specific cases, but overall that is not a very good way to find products to promote on ClickBank. I guarantee you that the idea presented doesn't apply to most of the top ranking products in the ClickBank marketplace. Even when it comes to "make money" products, the overwhelming majority of affiliates do not buy the products they promote. Similarly, the overwhelming majority (ok probably more like 99.8%) of "review sites" are complete BS and the "reviewer" has never seen any of the products.

Why would anyone sell a product if they don't know what it is, the value, have an opinion or at least know what %50 of the product is... Hasn't anyone heard of Word Of Mouth Advertising?

You can't make money if you don't have some kind of overhead... test your product, read it, if you can learn from it, and the product would interest you, sell it.... use the cheat learned from http://ezseonews.com/blog/ezseo-newsletter-126/87/ , get a discount, learn the product and voula, you know if it is worth advertising. Word Of Mouth Advertising is always the best source of income, always has been, and always will be.

Proof - WOULD YOU BE ON THIS FORUM IF YOU DIDN'T WANT SOMEONE ELSE'S OPINION OF A PRODUCT? WOULD YOU GIVE ME $5.00 TO TELL YOU THIS... NO UNLESS YOU HEARD IT WAS WORTH IT.....!!!

[Adi]

1. I think that knowing about the product is very important. I remember a time when I stooped promoting a diet after my
sister told me that this diet might do damage to some people. Nowadays my system is promoting products on auto pilot and
one of the first things on my to do list is to create a block list for scam products.

2. I once had an idea to write a program to track the gravity factor of the products at clickbank...after reading that article
I might start working on it to give us a tool for selecting products to promote...

[DAVE]

man, if you did that, it would be awsome

[TonyG]

As far as the Gravity/Affiliate Theft issue: Do you think a high gravity product would be safe(er) if there was not an obvious "Make 50% Promoting This Product" kind of link on the page? I would think that high gravity plus obscure affiliate info would be a good sign.

In reference to: http://ezseonews.com/blog/ezseo-newsletter-126/87/

[mrosson]

As far as the Gravity/Affiliate Theft issue: Do you think a high gravity product would be safe(er) if there was not an obvious "Make 50% Promoting This Product" kind of link on the page? I would think that high gravity plus obscure affiliate info would be a good sign.

In reference to: http://ezseonews.com/blog/ezseo-newsletter-126/87/

It probably would be a good sign. It would be pretty stupid to avoid promoting any product with a really high gravity score...and even though you should be careful in the B2B category....by completely avoiding any site with a good score, you would be losing out on a lot of good opportunities. :)

[jwags]

Thanks for sharing. I'll check it out.

[Miles Baker]

It probably would be a good sign. It would be pretty stupid to avoid promoting any product with a really high gravity score...and even though you should be careful in the B2B category....by completely avoiding any site with a good score, you would be losing out on a lot of good opportunities. :)

I totally agree.

[TonyG]

What do you think is the OGP :) ("Optimal Gravity Point") |I think I made an acronym| for Clickbank products, 100, 200, 300? What would you define as high/medium/low?

[Biff_Tiberius_Farnsworth]

I agree that gravity can be a red flag so I often look for what I guess you could call middle gravity. Then I check out the website. If it really resonates with me and my plans, I then look for complaints (unless the product is just a week or two old). Searches such as...

"The name of the product" AND forums
"The name of the product" AND sucks
"The name of the product" AND refund

and then I check the Google Groups Usenet archive.

This usually gives me an idea of the 'Value' of the product.

~B

[gk_awadhiya]

Certainly a good article informing important information at least of newbies.

GK Awadhiya

[Travis24]

I am going to take a dissenting opinion...and spout my mouth of again...

95% of CB affiliates make zero money...or lose money...

Why?

95% of affiliates go to clickbank first and try desperately to decipher all the goobledy gook numbers...

and they totally IMO miss the point...

Here's what I do...you can do it or not...it is just what I do...

I find a hot market first...and that market is also made up of people...a niche...people in that niche have problems...wants...and needs...

Once I have identified a hot market...and I know what they are looking for...and what they want...

Then...and only then will I start searching for products...which many times leads me to clickbank...but not always...

When I get to clickbank...I could care less about any of the frickin' numbers...

What do I look at?

How well does product x solve the problem...needs and wants of "my" particular niche?...How well does the sales page convey the benefits to "my" niche?...once I have found a suitable candidate...OMG...I BUY the product...Does it live up to the sales page?...

Now...that is just the way I do it...

Do I ever "reverse" engineer? Sometimes...I will look at a product and try to determine what niche is this product targetting?....What problems does this product say it can solve for this niche...then I will look at the niche...and research if they indeed have this problem...want...or need?

Most of the high gravity products...are high gravity...because 95% of affiliate marketers have not figured out that the "make money" niche...is microscopic compared to other niches...and they have not figured out...there is much less competition in other niches...

So...

What happens is 95% of the people are promoting "make money" products...and yes they make sales....but again...just because you make sales does not mean you are profitable....

The numbers...IMO...are absolutely worthless...the only numbers I have ever looked at...is deriving a refund rate...if it is high...I assume that the product does not deliver...and I save myself the trouble of buying it...

If you are looking at products first...IMO...you are doing it backwards...and likely a very good reason why you may be struggling...

This is old school marketing wisdom...since the days of the bible this has worked...

1.Find a hungry market...
2.Find what they are hungry for...
3.Then...give it to them....

If you have trouble making this work...and when I have trouble making this work...it is usually because of not understanding #2...you don't understand exactly what it is they are hungry for...

Travis

[onewake]

You have some very good points, Travis! I'd even take it a step further and say that many of the hi gravity, "money and employment" products that have higher than average refund rates...from my experience, those site owners are continually modifying their sites to cater to their high refund rate...It seems to me that they are only concerned with raising that average per/sale number so an affiliate will look at it and find it promissing.

Basically, I think some of the more popular CB products are catered to the fact that even though there is a high refund rate, they can upsell and squeeze an extra few dollars out of the customer, and in the end, it will make their stats look a little more appealing!

In the end, though I love that there is a marketplace with such a vast ammount of opportunity. With that there will of course be good and bad, and each marketer will have to make decisions accordingly.