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cjshu
June 22nd, 2006, 01:31 PM
Saw a report on TV last night. It seems congress is looking to pass a bill making releasing personal data illegal and that includes online. They showed a couple of websites similar to some on clickbank in their report.

Just wondering if the guys who run these sites are concerned.

CJ

cricketchamps
June 22nd, 2006, 01:49 PM
Saw a report on TV last night. It seems congress is looking to pass a bill making releasing personal data illegal and that includes online. They showed a couple of websites similar to some on clickbank in their report.

Just wondering if the guys who run these sites are concerned.

CJ


well it is concerned......but now USA government is tapping people phone numbers and checking email adresses............Everyday is getting weird

rainmaker
June 22nd, 2006, 01:57 PM
I didn't see it but it was probably referring to "publicly available information", not public records. Shouldn't affect anything ...

cashscout
June 22nd, 2006, 02:13 PM
Saw a report on TV last night. It seems congress is looking to pass a bill making releasing personal data illegal and that includes online. They showed a couple of websites similar to some on clickbank in their report.

Just wondering if the guys who run these sites are concerned.

CJ

We should all be concerned about stuff like that, but for now the opportunity is here to make money.

ColinSick
June 22nd, 2006, 02:18 PM
They are cracking down on information obtained through illegal means. The main targets are companies that obtain cell phone record call logs by misrepresenting themselves as the customer and requesting records.

I do not think any of this will effect ProCash and similar sites.

machiavelli
June 22nd, 2006, 02:27 PM
Perhaps we should take up a collection on this forum to payoff some politicians. :)

We can put the bribes in the mini-freezers that Google gives away. :lol:

suedehead
June 22nd, 2006, 02:37 PM
Saw a report on TV last night. It seems congress is looking to pass a bill making releasing personal data illegal and that includes online. They showed a couple of websites similar to some on clickbank in their report.

Just wondering if the guys who run these sites are concerned.



I've wondered about that myself. To me this is a bigger concern than certain sites giving away free memberships.

I'd like to hear Lev's take on the issue.

Suedehead

CBniche
June 22nd, 2006, 02:49 PM
Here is a similar news story about the house moving to shield the "sale" of cellular phone records:

http://detectiveforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=167

apmfree
June 22nd, 2006, 05:23 PM
Saw a report on TV last night. It seems congress is looking to pass a bill making releasing personal data illegal and that includes online. They showed a couple of websites similar to some on clickbank in their report.

Just wondering if the guys who run these sites are concerned.

CJ


Public records will always be avaliable, that's why they're "Public", congress
is looking to crackdown on the sales of phone records. I already check with
Lev about this, we have nothing to worry about. The procash sites don't
sell phone call records, they just offer a reverse phone lookups, which is
totally legit.

Apmfree

Lev
June 23rd, 2006, 03:39 AM
Public records will always be avaliable, that's why they're "Public", congress
is looking to crackdown on the sales of phone records. I already check with
Lev about this, we have nothing to worry about. The procash sites don't
sell phone call records, they just offer a reverse phone lookups, which is
totally legit.

Apmfree

exactly, the crackdown is for sites that offer cell phone records, which are illegal. Public records will always remain legal, that is why they are called public records.

Biff_Tiberius_Farnsworth
June 23rd, 2006, 01:49 PM
The gist of the matter that requires Congress to consider and propose bills to avert potential damage to the Constitution and its amendments is...

Law enforcement has begun to use these data brokers to get data that otherwise would require a subpoena or warrant from a judge.
They argue that they are just using a legal company that offers this info quickly and in many cases cheaper than it would cost the municipality to get a judge's approval.

This subverts 'due process' and all the precedents that have been set to create the laws requiring inclusion of a judge in the process.

Nobody in law enforcement wants to look a gift horse in the mouth (no pun intended) when they suddenly have a new tool that helps them catch 'bad guys' so the problem became quite widespread before Congress got wind of it.

The litmus test for whether or not to promote a program is simply...
"If a police officer can obtain the same information without a warrant then you can sell access to it."

Biff Tiberius Farnsworth
Duty by the moons of Calais!

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Adrian
June 23rd, 2006, 02:12 PM
Welcome to ewealth Biff!

carr11
June 23rd, 2006, 02:48 PM
Welcome to this awesome forum Biff

Lev
June 23rd, 2006, 03:27 PM
driving records, social security records can not be accessed by the public, but other records, like criminal, people search, background reports, reverse cell, phone, address are all public records and hence, will always be legal to provide to the consumer

Biff_Tiberius_Farnsworth
June 23rd, 2006, 03:41 PM
driving records, social security records can not be accessed by the public, but other records, like criminal, people search, background reports, reverse cell, phone, address are all public records and hence, will always be legal to provide to the consumer

Firstly, Lev, I want it made perfectly clear that I have tremendous respect for you and you company. I have promoted your products in the past and continue to do so.

The areas you mention are more of a gray area to me as there are proper and legal ways of obtaining that information. It just requires more of a process than simply doing a quick 'look up' and thus costs more. An excellent example is Voter Registration records in some states are public domain but many states put your social security number in those records now.

Biff Tiberius Farnsworth
Duty by the moons of Calais!

The delightful and demonstrative Linda Decker's
Free Newbie Guide (http://rockonjigglypuff.com)