View Full Version : Lack of "nohop" parameter makes you lose Clickbank sales?
henryzeng
November 3rd, 2007, 07:20 AM
How could this happen?
http://moneyclicking.net/index.php/archives/2007/11/03/are-you-losing-clickbank-sales/
Anybody can explain it?
rocker rokstar
November 8th, 2007, 06:36 PM
I think it makes sense that the lack of using this parameter could cost you sales.
There is many things that could screw up you getting your commision. I think they did a good job covering the possiblities in that blog.
For instance the vendor could promote his own affiliate link and rob your commision. They would do this in their newsletter or landing page. That is why it is good to check the order forum to make sure your id is showing.
andyz
November 10th, 2007, 09:36 AM
Why it makes sense? Do you know for what is this parameter? So far, nobody there knows about this...I could find nothing on CB or in the internet about that.
One guy in the blog explained, that he thinks, it's not about that parameter, why Kidino suddenly saw his Affiliate ID, but because ading something to an URL makes the browser to load the page new instead from the cache.
mojojuju
November 10th, 2007, 11:17 PM
I love these little known url parameters. And I'll share one with you guys; It's the secret "Tuna Fish" parameter.
What the "Tuna Fish" parameter does is - and BTW, I hope that Clickbank doesn't read this and realize that I've uncovered a vulnerability in their system - what the "Tuna Fish" parameter does is tricks Clickbank into awarding you "double" the commission that you'd normally receive for a product.
Let me explain. I have one product that I sell a high volume of. Every time I sell this product, I earn $43.12 in commission. That's pretty good commission for a product, don't you think?
Well, since I've appended all of my hoplinks for the above mentioned product with the "Tuna Fish" parameter, I've noticed that I now receive NOT $43.12 per sale, but $86.24 per sale. Pretty cool, huh? I can only guess that this loophole is possible due to some programming bug or some residual code left over from a period when Clickbank was doing some testing.
Whatever the reason for it, it works. But don't tell anyone about it. This can be our secret.
Oh, and if you want to modify your hoplinks with the "Tuna Fish" parameter, here's how you do it:
Normal hoplink (with tid)
http://YOURAFFID.VENDORID.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=xxxxxxxx
"Tuna Fish" enhanced hoplink
http://YOURAFFID.VENDORID.hop.clickbank.net/?tid=xxxxxxxx&tuna=fish
Seriously folks, this works, because mojojuju told you so.
JerryMarketing
November 11th, 2007, 02:01 AM
OMG mojojuju!
You just spilled the beans.. now everyone will be using this tuna fish method and clickbank will find out!!!
no more x2 commission for me anymore! :(:(:(
andyz
November 12th, 2007, 08:31 PM
OMG! I will write a Tuna Fish Scam ebook (that's the best: An outdated technique that doesn't work anymore or is overused), make some incredible cash with it and then escape to mexico!! :lol:
rocker rokstar
November 15th, 2007, 04:07 AM
From my understanding using the no hop parameter will make it so that in the address bar the usual "hop=nickname" does not show. This way the customer would be less likely to remove this from the url. This is the tell tell sign of a clickbank affiliate link. By using the no hop the common problem of people replacing the nickname with their own may be reduced.
The downside could be that the customer would only bookmark the vendor url since the hop= is missing from the url.
mojojuju
November 15th, 2007, 12:50 PM
From my understanding using the no hop parameter will make it so that in the address bar the usual "hop=nickname" does not show.
rocker, that is demonstratively not true. The "Tuna fish" parameter, however, works every time.
WayneB
November 15th, 2007, 03:17 PM
The hop=nickname will still show when using any parameter unless the
vendor is doing some kind of redirect to stop it from showing. The problem
is that your browser (at least in Firefox) will show the page from its
cache if you have visited the site previously. If you delete cookies in the
meantime, Firefox will serve the page from its cache and the cookie will
not be created again. By using a parameter, it will force Firefox to serve
the page fresh again instead of from its cache, causing the cookie to be
created again.
Miderno
November 15th, 2007, 03:36 PM
One thing to be aware of is that some people will insert there own hoplink and replace yours. Not sure if anyone has had this happen to them, but it can devastate sales.
andyz
November 15th, 2007, 08:48 PM
Yes, that's the case in internet marketing where people know about affiliate links. They will still do it if you cloak your link.
So you have to give them a good reason to buy from you. Offer them a great bonus, or be so good to them, that they buy voluntarily through your link.
But in other niches where people don't know about this, you don't really need to be concerned about that. Though cloaking the link is still good because affiliate links look ugly, and some people would suspect that you make money and try to remove the affiliate ID part.
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